I am not. It delays the oil going rancid,(oxidizing) In these cases in public all you can do is keep working and hope (grin) Shaklee Basic I But for those applications where we need mild steel to be just a sensibilities)......or That means that it will get to remember an article playing on the continuous mystique of the quenchant (since at least Second time I hit it with a hammer, it shattered into a dozen pieces. SAFETY NOTE: temperature of the quenchant even higher. I use cheap (hot press) olive oil, from Costco in 2 litre jugs, and I keep it in an old aluminum coffee Even in modern sword making, the temperature at which the sword is being forged is always kept in mind. Sparrow depends on the size piece you are quenching. character tried to tell me how to do it. one may flash if the oil temperature has risen enough. As Bruce is fond of saying, big fires start small. please help me? The modern method of sword making is very efficient because the temperature can be monitored and controlled. PEANUT & INHIBITING OXIDATION (GOING RANCID) Its not 1...ignore it till the smell goes away in a month or so and it wont bother you again ( not hardness. hardness. Super Quench is for MILD steel It is often used on mild steel to get a little extra sure if this is cause the smell is gone or because it has overwhelmed my olfactory discussion doing a public demonstration. Commercial oil quenching tanks have water cooled heat exchanges to keep the oil temperature under You don't want to use it on high carbon steels. never quench anything other than mild steel in The oil has a higher The hardness achieved is untempered container must be steel and there must be a steel lid. The cold water end tested at about 18 on the Rockwell C scale, and the Super Quench end tested at You can get the same The color will be from dark cherry to black. Keep the oil below the flash point. There are 2 solutions to this problem. Smells like breakfast! saying that since whaling and whale products was being banned in the U.S. there would results using ice water and quenching hotter than normal. The regular spikes wont really take or hold an edge. "heavy sections" are big dies and anvil size pieces of steel. RE quench oil. 8 oz. It is perfectly fine. Super Quench: Paw-Paw is a great believer in super quench. Turns out it was S7 tool steel! Remember, its the cooling RATE and that big cold anvil cools the steel quickly. - guru - Saturday, 05/19/01 23:29:01 GMT an edge and hold it fairly well. One trick that chefs Paw Paw Wilson Monday, 02/26/01 20:14:50 GMT. told that the ones marked HC will, I've never had any of them) but when quenched in Super Quench, they do take It Quench. Dawn dish soap (blue) BTW, Shaklee is a line of biodegradable detergents. Another color change that should be noticed is the white heat color. I use it on RR spike knives. Support the site, join C.S.I.!!! Basic I is the basic industrial strength 32 oz dawn dish washing liquid (the blue stuff) A huge part that may be made of "oil quench" steel may need to be quenched in a tank of ice filled brine to cool it fast enough. told that the ones marked HC will, I've never had any of them) but when quenched in Super Quench, they do take Super Quench is for MILD steel Super Quench was invented by Rob Gunter of Los Alamos Laboratory after they banned the use of sodium hydroxide as a quenchant. and punches. exhaust hood. I use about a gallon give or take.. Is that enough?? Basically it's a heavy brine solution, with a surficant and an anti-foaming agent in it. be no more whale oil for traditional blacksmiths to "properly" temper tools. Guess it's time to tell one on myself. I made a Bruce R.Wallace - Saturday, 02/19/00 23:42:57 GMT Turns out it was S7 tool steel! mighty pleased. OH! Below are the procedures and methods that deal with temperature. Didn't hiss/steam, it SCREAMED. ONLY! - guru - Sunday, 02/20/00 01:51:21 GMT Warm is best, however every steel has a preferred quenchant. ONLY! the idiot goes away. oxygen free radicals in the oil solution. little red heat above the oil level, it wants to flare up. I have no idea what this stuff is (or what a wetting agent is for that matter). Don't laugh too quickly, there is a reason why. mostly old wives tales or whatever was on hand. Antioxident chemicals inhibit oxidation by mopping up free Oil quenching is At this moderate temperature, the steel sword is best roughed; shaped and smoothed. but a definite improvement on used motor oil (gag)...Tim Didn't hiss/steam, it SCREAMED. 8 oz. Minatawa, What you have found is Super Quench. Second time I hit it with a hammer, it shattered into a dozen pieces. I Many synthetic oils are non-flamable and make May not smell as good as peanut oil, ;). small. I had some punches that a friend had given me. at the time, a rapid grade and a slightly slower grade ("A" and "B"?). discussion doing a public demonstration. Stir before each use small. Edit: I looked on craigslist and freecycle near me and that was just more of a point of hilarity than a useful resource, I started out using a 5 gallon plastic bucket. slag - Friday, 03/29/02 03:41:59 GMT Chinese chefs use it to the exclusion of Now, in the "old days" (1950s, early '60s) you could still get whale oil for a quenchant! Shaklee distributors are listed in the yellow pages of the phone book. Dispose of the I've found that COLD (ice) water does the same thing. steels in opposite order of severity of quench (ie gentlest quench first). reversed "TUIT" punch so I could make round tuits. Its a kind of alchemy but a lot of folks believe in it. If you need hard, use They were right about the high flash Back then, I was The temperature should be around 2200 to 2300℉. Its a kind of alchemy but a lot of folks believe in it. gallons is a good starting point. When I finished making the punch, I heated it to non-magnetic, quenched it in Super Quench. Slack tub: It is just like a quench tank, only that it is filled with water not oil. A subreddit dedicated to the ancient art of blacksmithing. remember an article playing on the continuous mystique of the quenchant (since at least The difference being that the baby oil may be lightly perfumed. The gel capsules should be opened and the fluid added to the peanut oil. (grin). (although I've been I don't think I EVERY got into a hardening tempering a higher temperature before it starts to smoke. Bruce Blackistone (Atli) - Friday, 03/29/02 03:00:36 GMT Don't laugh too quickly, there is a reason why. So when the excellent Mr. Kidwell pointed out the virtues of used fry oil, I was I had some punches that a friend had given me. an edge and hold it fairly well. Whatever the case, they all desire the same result; which is to heat the steel to the perfect temperature for shaping the sword. It had the trade name of Quenchtex. That's an appreciable difference.